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Sunday, March 22, 2009

Response by Wiley Drake

A few days ago, Pastor Wiley Drake, a former vice-president of the Southern Baptist Convention, posted this message.

Anti-Religion gossipers and North Carolina Judge force a Christian Mother to place her 3 children in a dangerous, un-Godly, un-safe public government school.

From the Court room audio I heard Judge Ned W. Mangum say, "this case has nothing to do with religion" then proceeded to issue a very anti-religious order.

After reading the 10 page "TEMPORARY CUSTODY ORDER Case # 08 CVD 17753 I have a few things I would like to discuss.

If I were an attorney I would ask how can the court say "finds this a credible statement" when it was simply a Grandmother saying she was concerned about the effect on the children when discussing the Mother's involvement with one, Sound Doctrine Church.

Court records show that the court said about the Church, "very small membership and does not have a traditional building in Wake County." I pastor a Southern Baptist main line Church, and even though we are 15 million strong more that 1/2 of our Churches are "small with a non traditional building." Guess the SBC is Cult- like.

Another feature of this Church was that the pastor and his wife were refered to as Mom and Dad. Since my wife and I have been at the same Church for more than 21 years and have passed the age of 65 many refer to me as Dad and her as Mom. I even have a few converted Catholics that still call me Father. Guess I better be careful I might be a Cult leader.

The other day I was on an airplane and a small child came over and climbed up on my lap. The Mother said he never goes to a stranger, and then she looked at my grey hair and said "I guess you look like a Grandpaw." I should have told her I might be a Cult leader.

Former members of our Church with whom we had to exercise tough love, since they would not give up booze and dope would tell you that we harassed them to support our Church rather than the local bar and drug dealer on the street. Former members mad at God always find one of God's anointed to blame for their backsliding.

Still another thing in the court record record was a reference to "boot camp style regimen." I guess I had better tell my friend David Wilkerson to tell his friend Dick Simmons to quit calling his Men for Nations prayer group prayer "boot Camp," someone might call them a cult.

Court records indicate Mr. Mills said his wife Venessa stopped communicating and he also said she told family members she did not feel married to him any longer. Maybe it was because he was having sex with his mistress. The court record indicates with no other evidence but this hearsay that, "The Court finds this as a fact" My question, fact based upon what evidence?

The record also says Venessa was quoting scripture and religious rhetoric. Again the court said "The Court finds this a fact" Once again what evidence?

Maybe Venessa's religious rhetoric that Mr. Mills did not like was "Thou Shalt not commit Adultery," to which he admitted under Court Room oath that he had broken the N.C. law against such activities.

The Grandmother said the child Dana looked fearful of her Mother, again the court ruled "The Court finds this as a fact" No evidence, just an elderly woman's gossip.

Over and over again family members gave nothing more than hearsay gossip to which "The Court finds as fact."

Shanna Winkler-Hanson gave her own estimation of the situation with no evidence other than her own hearsay opinion to which " The court finds this as fact." Again no evidence presented, simply her hyphenated opinion.

There was no evidence presented, simply disgruntled backslidden Church members looking to get back at a pastor who preached, "Thus sayeth the Lord".

Court Records again said, "The Court finds that at no time did Mr. Mills agree that home schooling would be permanent." The court did not "find" this, they simply took his word over hers.

This is a clear cut example of anti-religious people and an anti-religion Judge taking children away from a loving relationship and placing them in a hell hole of moving every week to please a husband who left his wife and children to have sex with his tennis partner.

The Court of God has and will find the facts not only with Mr. Mills but the Judge and gossip spreaders.

Even the Court said the children should have NO contact with the adulterous partner.

The court ruled that Venessa should be evaluated, how about Mr. Mills who admitted that he not only broke N.C. law but most important God's law by laying down with another woman to have sex. If the court is convinced that Mr. Mills will be a good Father, why did it rule "no contact with mistress?"

This is a clear-cut anti-Christian, anti-religion, and an anti-homeschool effort to take America's children away from Godly parents and schools.

Wiley Drake

2 comments:

Little Towhee said...

Once again, I find this sort of posting to be manipulative. You attempt to use the name of another denomination's ex-leader to bring a large well of support to the side of the Sound Doctrine Church. (Wiley Drake is a controversial figure in the Southern Baptist Convention.) The odd thing is that Sound Doctrine Church is probably a reactionary church created because of disgruntlement with churches such as the Southern Baptists. This manipulation is sending me red flags. Just because Wiley Drake supports the Sound Doctrine Church doesn't mean I should.

All homeschoolers should think for themselves. Isn't that the reason we homeschool? To teach our children to think for themselves?

Bottomline is that no government should tell a parent what values he or she can instill in his/her own child. That's a parental right and it interferes with church/state.

I support Venessa Mills in being able to instill her values in her children as she is convicted, BUT I personally cannot support the Sound Doctrine Church.

Robyn said...

Little Towhee, thank you for your support for Venessa. That's what this blog is here for. Whether you support or agree with Sound Doctrine Church is entirely up to you. There's absolutely no manipulation here.

This was not posted to drum up support for Sound Doctrine Church. It was posted because Wiley Drake is supporting Venessa Mills, and he is highlighting some fallacies in the accusations that have been leveled against her because of her beliefs and involvement in Sound Doctrine Church.

I agree that everyone should think for themselves. That's exactly what we teach our kids, too.

If you want to disagree with Sound Doctrine Church, that's fine. I'd only ask that you "think for yourself" and make sure you understand exactly what you're disagreeing with, instead of blindly accepting all the gossip and slander that is circulated by others.

Again, whether you support Sound Doctrine Church or not, thank you for your support for Venessa and for justice.

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