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Sunday, March 15, 2009

WorldNetDaily Follows Up

WorldNetDaily has just posted another follow up on this case at the top of their homepage.


23 comments:

Anonymous said...

Oh, dear Lord - Does this mean that Venessa Mills did not submit ANY objections at all?? Even yesterday prior to the deadline being today?? If not, this is not going to bold well for her. This is going to be showing defiance towards the judge who is making the final decision. Please tell me she submitted some objections yesterday, even though the deadline wasn't till today!!!

Robyn said...

Due to the impossible situation Venessa has been placed in by Judge Mangum, who also allowed her husband to remain in the house throughout the proceedings, she has not had a moments peace and was not given adequate time to prepare proper objections or a proper defense against Judge Mangum's unjust rulings. She certainly wanted to submit objections, but was given no realistic opportunity to do so.

Anonymous said...

The courts will not see it that way - Even had the deadline been left for Monday, the 16th (which is tomorrow) she would have had to be prepared to turn in her objections then, even though today is her day dedicated to GOD she would have had to have it all prepared. I've noticed in the blog that she has an attorney, why didn't he/she turn in objections for her?? Seriously, this IS NOT GOING TO HELP HER!!! She needed to submit objections so that they would have been on the record for whenever the time came for her to appeal this case. This will make it that much harder for her, if not impossible NOW!!

Robyn said...

That the courts will not see it that way is precisely the problem.

I understand what you're saying, but I'm afraid you don't fully understand the conditions that Venessa has been forced to endure.

Anonymous said...

I am not trying to argue with you here and I understand that she is under a lot of stress but this ALONE could cost her whatever she was going to appeal on. The courts DONT care when they give both parties a deadline - you have to make arrangements to meet those deadlines. I understand that she is frustrated and angry with Judge Mangum, but she just played right into his hands by defying him and then there is no objections on the record. He is going to point to her interviews with the press, stating she had time to give those but not submit objections. He most certainly will note it down in the record. Then when and if a new judge were to get the record, its going to show that she didn't object at the time of the temporary order. None of this other stuff will matter - it will be just considered fluff. Judges can deny appeals by the merits of the original order and SHE DIDN'T PROTECT HERSELF - the courts and judges will not look at it the same way she is.

Why didn't her attorney submit the objections for her??? All she would have had to do was talk with her attorney over the phone, and then the attorney would have prepared the papers???

Robyn said...

You're right, the courts don't care. Again, that's the problem. This isn't about defying the judge or being frustrated. I'm sure everything you're saying makes sense, but you seem to be placing way too much faith in the system.

There are so many comments on this blog, and I've received so many messages from other people, who have tried to follow the system in exactly the same way as you're talking about - and it got them absolutely nowhere.

What you're describing is called injustice, and that's exactly what we're taking a stand against and drawing attention to.

I'm afraid I can't make any comments about Venessa's attorney. If you'd like to continue this discussion, please e-mail me at homeschool.injustice[at]gmail.com.

Robin said...

I agree that this situation is unfair.
I am also a single homeschooling mom, and i understand the issues presented. however,
(1) there is way too much focus on the adulterous husband in the "facts of the case" section, including his tennis playing habits. The law does not care about these things and obsessively focusing on them is going to cost her as it makes her look unreasonable. She can't prevent her husband from committing adultery, and she can't legally kick him out of the home based on adultery alone, it is his home to and he pays the bills. Unfortunately, she needs to get over this real fast as far as becoming so fixated on how she has been wronged that she is unable to focus on what is really important ... her children. If she can't rise up over this she is playing into her husband and the law's hands, and she will lose everything. She needs to continue to educate her children and to ensure that they have a good relationship with their dad, in spite of her pain. Her failure to do so, will hurt her more than it will hurt him. She must not become bitter, let him go.

(2) No way the judge has any right to prevent her from homeschooling. HSLDA is on the case, so she is covered. She just needs to NOT mess herself up as per (1) above.

(3) God is in control. She needs to stop flailing around concerned with her own pain and get serious about focusing on her children. HSLDA is there for her, and God will use all these things for her good, she needs to trust and stop trumpeting about how she has been wronged, let God defend and stop trying to wreak vengeance by destroying her husband and his reputation.

Anonymous said...

You folks don't get it. It doesn't matter what Mrs. Mills does or doesn't do. Judge Magnum will roll over her. The courts need to see it as it is, not witching hunting. Clearly attorneys are more interested in themselves than in justice. Beside, only a dunce cannot see Mrs. Mills OBJECTED!

Anonymous said...

Where is her attorney? Have you not been reading the blog of all the other horor stories. The "justice" system cares more about their dogs than children.

Anonymous said...

Come on folks ...you really think Judge Magnum is going to listen to any objections?

Anonymous said...

This is the best move she could make. As it was a total waste of money up to this point, it would be total waste of monies now. She had best save ever dime for appeals, if that is even possible. Besides, the poor woman is using powdered milk while the judge and attornies are no doubt eating just fine. Blood money as far as I am concerned.

Anonymous said...

Look everyone, Judge Magnum is going to do the same thing he has always done. Let Mrs. Mills give her arguments then ignore them. It doesn't matter what she does, she is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. At least this time Mr. Magnum will not be burdened with the truth. He should be able to cancle court sooner to be next to his dog now.

Anonymous said...

Courts should not get respect at the end of a gun, they should earn it. If Judge Mangum wants respect, he should both earn and show it.

Anonymous said...

How do evil judges do their work?
By five good lawyers remaining silent.

Anonymous said...

Mrs Mills has my highest regards. Anyone seen the movie, "Chariots of Fire."

Let us not forget that this insanity can be stopped if Mr. Mills and his attorney, I foget her name at the moment, became reasonable.

Anonymous said...

I haven't seen any reference to Venessa's pastor or church family or of her trust in the sovereignty of God in the midst of her trials. This concerns me, as she professes to be a Christian. I hope she is getting some spiritual support from those who know her and some godly counsel. It doesn't appear that way from the posts.

Flight Doc said...

May God bless you. Do not become discouraged in the face of evil (read the "judge" and your ex.
Have no apology for the unerring truth of our Bible.
Today, as in the days Christ walked the earth, our world is corrupt. Truly the words of the bible ring true with good will be called evil and evil good.
Have faith in our Lord protecting the children and warn the evil people who threaten the welfare of Gods children that Christ warned it would be better for them to be thrown in water with a heavy stone upon their neck and than to lead a child astray.
May God protect you and grant you peace.

Anonymous said...

Venessa and her children remain in our prayers. I also pray that the judge and husband will have a change of heart on these issues. Hopefully God will raise up a decent Christian lawyer to volunteer his/her efforts and time in this case. Perhaps Alan Keyes would be moved to go beyond his blog post and board a plane to North Carolina. Lord help this nation, I fear we are beyond repair.
Love and prayers to you and the Mills family, from another homeschooling family here in NC - AmyM

Robyn said...

Robin: it doesn't look like you've read all the posts on this blog, as you are not seeing the bigger picture. Don't dismiss this as a woman being bitter over adultery - that's not the case.

The point is that everything you're pointing out as being "the law" is true, but that doesn't mean it's right. How many other women are going to suffer under these same immoral, unjust laws?

HSLDA is not on the case - they refuse to get involved in any divorce issues, even though this isn't really about custody, but about basic justice.

Anonymous said...

This case it total outrage. This woman needs to homeschool her kids to fill them with her love since the father is absent {of mind and morals.} These kids need their mom to help transition with this divorce, not the public school full time leaving them in the hands of the state. I strongly disagree with the this case and think it is a wrong nit-pick on a loving mother who is a victim here. The attention needs to be elsewhere, on the starving children, poor and needy, the kids without a loving parent at all and the abused. What a waste of money! It is so clear they are distracted by a parade of clowns shooting money into the crowd. Doesn't take a ring master to see that.

Anonymous said...

Where is Mrs. Mills Christian faith, as James wrote in the Bible, in her deeds.

Anyone read the legal troubles John the Baptist fell into and how he "handled" them? One can just imagine the legal advise John the Baptist would have gotten. In this case, Mrs. Mills needs to obey God rather than men, (see book of Acts) until some lawyer, Judge and Gov wake up to the overwhelming injustice that is being done everyday.

Look at the records, there is no way balanced judgments are coming throuh the courts. This Judge wasn't, well, smart enough to keep his mouth shut. But it goes on everyday, behind their close doors and from the bench. Wake and see this is Christianity in action.

Very good job Mrs. Mills.

Anonymous said...

I am wondering...and this is an honest question...how many speaking in defense of one parent or the other in this case actually know them personally? Or is the majority going on what has been passed on to them on their homeschool loops? Does Mrs. Mills have a lawyer? Is anyone who is personally acquainted with Mrs. Mills helping financially to get her a good lawyer? Did a godly, mutually respectful marriage exist before the adultery? Was homeschooling always a battle between the two parents or was dad fully on board until the divorce procedings? Who initiated the divorce? Is there a chance for reconciliation or is the sinner departing the relationship? How is Mrs. Mills' church helping her?

Anonymous said...

You know, those are a lot of questions that have nothing to do with the issues.

This judge is forcing homeschooled kids who are doing well into public school. I don't care whether the father committed adultery or the mother is in a cult, or if they're both saints, what this judge is doing is downright wrong and isn't in the best interest of the children. Period.

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